@NanoRaptor Wallace Shawn. You either find his voice annoying, but love him anyway, or you're wrong.

@NanoRaptor All I'm going to say is... "Hey, listen"

@NanoRaptor This is not a hypothetical - I get this in my head all the time. less narrator though, more like a pair of sports commentators like whatever I was doing was in the olympics or something .... and usually for the most mundane things. "The supermarket entry was well planned but he's ended up with a shopping trolly with a wonky wheel. This won't affect his aisle strategy but could result in a penalty if he hits a shelf or another shopper as a result. Over to you Jim?"

@NanoRaptor Having my life narrated by Morgan Freeman would restore a certain amount of gravitas to moments otherwise lacking, such as when I fall down the stairs or completely fail to recognize a person I've known for years.

@NanoRaptor it’s got to be Sir David Attenborough

Malcolm Tucker

@NanoRaptor Gilbert Gottfried

@NanoRaptor Cecil Baldwin

@NanoRaptor I do not know, but I will use it to perform the greatest heist in all history

@NanoRaptor Alfred Molina.

@NanoRaptor this is my actual life. Don't you have a constant internal monologue?

@NanoRaptor the voice from The Stanley Parable. With the same dynamic between us.

@foone Wait 'til you find out about slashdot...

@foone Big "haitch tee tee pee colon slash slash slash dot dot org" vibes.

@foone I always wanted to register dash-dash.dot.com, so I could have help.dot.dash-dash.dot.com.

@foone does it come with a PIN number?

@nina_kali_nina sword in the stone moment 😤

@MrLovenstein the secret panel is hilarious

@MrLovenstein this hurts 😂

@MrLovenstein

same with pictures

you see an amazing orange moon or a stunning red sun. you grab your phone and take a picture and... wow, look at that picture, it's a red/ orange dot 😑

it doesn't translate

@eniko It's simultaneously banking on AI to be actually intelligent and also saying that actual intelligence doesn't matter. Which is... funny. It also considers co-operation between agents fundamentally different for co-operation between all existing (biological) intelligent agents. I'd like them to back up the bold claims

@eniko

What's going to happen to LLMs is what happened to VR. The only VR companies left are a dozen VR games, showcasing houses before they're built, and that one VR escape room in every major city.

Those are workable businesses plans but nothing nearly as scalable as what was lied to investors.

LLMs are going to end up exactly like that.

The only adjacent technology that will probably scale are the physical robots coming out, because they can be taught on the processing power of a laptop.

@eniko So true. It's the case for the company I'm working for. This plus leadership / management bs, I sometimes wonder how they are still in business.

@eniko Yet some of us are able to build tons of fun things. Ive completed so much in the last year or so of doing LLM assisted programming. Both in my homelab and at work. I'm sorry that you think its not tenable, but there are a few of us making it work!

@eniko

I am eagerly, eagerly awaiting the point where they start feeding agentic code into the actual LLMs, and don't keep what's required to roll them back. Why would they? Obviously agentic code is far superior to human code, why would anyone need to have rollbacks?

But other than that, of course you can feel when code is shit. It comes out in the UI, it comes out in the design, it comes out in every typo and glitch you see. The only time you can't feel it is if the entirety of everything is shit, and there are plenty of coders out there who simply won't let that happen.

@eniko Revolutions like this just happens. If there’s endless talk and pushing it for years it just fizzles out.

Freaking cat videos on the internet changed everything for example.

@eniko
In the sense of financial losses it's a total failure.

@eniko the compiler comparison is right, but I don't think bug rate is the real gap, determinism is. a compiler bug is the same bug every run, so once it's found it's fixed for everyone forever. an LLM can make a similar mistake a different way each time, so review never gets to retire the way debugged compiler code does.

@eniko pure sunk-cost fallacy

@eniko

The Moneyed have always worshipped at the altar of Magical Thinking of outputs without inputs.

Wealth without effort on their part.

Perpetual motion machines built on someone else's unpaid blood, sweat, & tears.

Profits are private but losses are public.

Pollution without cleanups or reparation.

@eniko I also enjoy that when businesses "unlock" the full capabilities of AI tools they chew up so many "tokens" that they become wildly and unsustainably expensive.

Feels like it's going to solve itself as an issue. No coincidence that all the major AI companies have suddenly dashed to get their IPOs so the stakeholders can cashout before the burst.

@eniko
I had to sit through a demo recently on open code generating loads of tests.
Nobody could tell the audience, tesers asking questions, what the tests did.
I asked the presenter of this helped them learn about the business domain - got a blank look.
#noai

@eniko I would buy the argument that AI is a 5th Generation Language if the inputs were kept, were kept in an interoperable form and the output was deterministic.

At least then systemic bugs could be addressed systemically.

Of course none of this is true as I understand it.

@eniko RIP your notifications 🪦

@eniko as they say in finance, the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.

Sadly, lack of any long term sustainable business model does not imply inability to attract VC etc

@eniko @janeishly I think the key is "without intention". These tools do not, in any way, handle _meaning_. Coders tell me, "It writes great comments." Really? It knows what you intend the code to do? Or does is simply explain what the code _actually_ does? If the latter, it's redundant because I can just read the code. This is a First-Year CS mistake.

AI has no idea that "Colourless green ideas sleep furiously." is not correct. It does syntax, not semantics.

@nina_kali_nina looking forward to getting to that point…in a few years probably :')

@nina_kali_nina It's definitely content dependent for me still, but I am actually so proud of getting through "An Observation Log of my Fiance who Proclaims Herself a Villainess" without really thinking about it too much (outside a couple of lines)