ManMachine

@max@manmachine.me

Professional computer toucher.
Amateur photographer and musician.
Autistic.
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[?]Simon Tatham » 🌐
@simontatham@hachyderm.io

Intellectual property law is overreaching these days, but they can't turn _everything_ proprietary. For example, the answer to "what's the longest English word with no repeated letters?" is still uncopyrightable.

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[?]jer » 🌐
@jerrej@mastodon.social

@simontatham

There must be a longer word than "uncopyrightable"!

    [?]ShawnT 🔧🐀 » 🌐
    @phaysis@mastodon.coffee

    @simontatham unseating some of these IP laws, though, is an excellent practice of disestablishmentarianism.

      [?]Per Haps ✅✔✓☑ » 🌐
      @perhaps391@mastodon.social

      @simontatham *puts on thinking cap*
      It's good that the word is uncopyrightable because otherwise we wouldn't be able to use it.

      *oops, that wasn't the thinking cap*

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        [?]Cassandra has had an adventure [she/they] » 🌐
        @xgranade@wandering.shop

        HDMI-CEC is so fucking cursed. It's like Bluetooth and GPIB had a baby, then the USB-IF adopted it and gave it a name.

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        [?]Henri Verymetaldev » 🌐
        @verymetalsite@mastodon.social

        Good morning Mastodon ☕

        Friendly reminder:

        the boots you lick will stomp you too

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        [?]Chris Silverman 🌻 [he/html] » 🌐
        @csilverman@mastodon.social

        A dark mountain range under a deep blue starry night sky. Above the mountains is a light scattering of blue clouds. Hovering above one of the mountain peaks is a reddish object that looks like the location pin in Google maps. In the sky to the right is a white crescent moon. Below is a triangular cave in the mountain side, yellow light spilling out of the opening. The painting is signed "Chris Silverman".

        Alt...A dark mountain range under a deep blue starry night sky. Above the mountains is a light scattering of blue clouds. Hovering above one of the mountain peaks is a reddish object that looks like the location pin in Google maps. In the sky to the right is a white crescent moon. Below is a triangular cave in the mountain side, yellow light spilling out of the opening. The painting is signed "Chris Silverman".

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          [?]TrickTim » 🌐
          @TrickTim@mstdn.social

          @csilverman
          Are you selling this one somewhere, Chris?
          I love it!

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            [?]marlinz008 🧠💭🤔 » 🌐
            @marlinz008@social.tchncs.de

            @csilverman

            My feeling after looking at it:

            This shows the situation in the Alps perfectly. It's a hotspot for untrained tourists and helps them to know where to go without training.

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              [?]liz ten eleven [she/her] » 🌐
              @selectric@tacobelllabs.net

              they call it single sign-on because YOU HAVE TO SIGN ON EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN TIME

              [?]heyheymomo » 🌐
              @heyheymomo@socel.net

              Oi gamers what are we gaming? Any fun indies I should check out?

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              [?]zitrooona ⋆ ⁺₊⊹ 🌺 » 🌐
              @Sirs0ri@corteximplant.com

              @heyheymomo "Restory" is a super chill and wholesome single player electronics repair sim, and "Big Walk" is a great coop puzzle/exploration game if you have a few friends to play with (2-12 players, I've played with 3 others and that felt like a good party size)

                [?]eva lauren ☂️ (froggybrolly) [she/they (en) • ei/hi (cy) • elle (fr)] » 🔓
                @eval@woof.tech

                @heyheymomo I started Big Walk with some friends the other day and it’s really fun :)

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                  [?]heyheymomo » 🔓
                  @heyheymomo@socel.net

                  @eval wish I had friends who play games lol

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                    [?]Psycodepath » 🔓
                    @psycodepath@mastodon.social

                    @heyheymomo @eval If you are okay with doing the vaticans sorry Work, witchfire is quite fun.

                    Riftbreaker is also pretty fun.

                    If you are into strategy mechabellum is pretty chill.

                      [?]Recovering Iron Pencil Statue :lapis: :big_challenges: » 🔓
                      @lapis@elekk.xyz

                      @heyheymomo I'm currently obsessed with Fields of Mistria

                        [?]lertsenem [he/hom] » 🔓
                        @lertsenem@mastodon.lertsenem.com

                        @heyheymomo A bit old but I'm playing Nine Sols and living every minute of it. It's basically Sekiro in 2D with space cats. Otherwise if you want a nice (and free !) detective game, you can check out The Red Pearls of Borneo on itch.io.

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                          [?]heyheymomo » 🔓
                          @heyheymomo@socel.net

                          @lertsenem ahh I’ve played nine sols and loved it too! So good

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                            [?]lertsenem [he/hom] » 🔓
                            @lertsenem@mastodon.lertsenem.com

                            @heyheymomo In that case I can maybe recommend Bō, path of the Teal Lotus, which is also a metroidvania, not so much about parrying and more about pogoing (you regain your jump after hitting something).

                            A bit too verbose for its own good imo, especially since I found the story very forgettable, but it has some very good sequences where you get to feel like an awesome acrobat, dodging, dashing and jumping, touching land less and less.

                              [?]ImaCrea » 🌐
                              @imacrea@mamot.fr

                              @heyheymomo Just started Tunic, very beautiful Zelda-like game. Lots of love put into it.

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                                [?]ManMachine » 🌐
                                @max@manmachine.me

                                Easy Delivery Co is very much a mood

                                  [?]Nayska » 🌐
                                  @Nayska@eldritch.cafe

                                  @heyheymomo Crow Country is very good 😊 And more recently I've played Despelote which was pretty nice

                                    [?]penaddict » 🌐
                                    @penaddict@mastodon.social

                                    @heyheymomo just bought Vampire Crawlers and I’m hooked. Cat Mail Co. is awesome too.

                                      [?]/ᐠ. ᴗ.ᐟ\ » 🌐
                                      @kittenm4ster@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      @heyheymomo i just played Thank Goodness You're Here and i highly recommend it

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                                        [?]heyheymomo » 🌐
                                        @heyheymomo@socel.net

                                        @kittenm4ster I played it and I loved it too! Great sense of humor

                                          [?]Dan 🌻 [they/them] » 🌐
                                          @danvolchek@mastodon.social

                                          @heyheymomo is there a genre you like?

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                                            [?]heyheymomo » 🌐
                                            @heyheymomo@socel.net

                                            @danvolchek I like games that are fast and difficult and are easy to get into. Think hotline Miami, enter the gungeon, meatboy

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                                              [?]Dan 🌻 [they/them] » 🌐
                                              @danvolchek@mastodon.social

                                              @heyheymomo Me too!!

                                              None of these are particularly new, but I really liked: brotato, nuclear throne, tiny rogues, paper planet, celeste, neon white, momodora: reverie under the moonlight, super hexagon, bleed

                                              I also have heard great things about unbeatable but I haven't played it yet

                                              All made by individuals/small teams (I think) :)

                                                [?]Rosy » 🌐
                                                @lalah@sakurajima.moe

                                                @heyheymomo lately I have been playing old games with mods, I might try animal crossing deluxe next.

                                                  [?]Fish in the Percolator » 🌐
                                                  @imrehg@fosstodon.org

                                                  @heyheymomo Book of Hours, deep deep into it. Have a soft spot for libraries, and also got me reading more. But boy it is long!

                                                    [?]Celeste Ryder 🐾 🐀🏳️‍🌈 » 🔓
                                                    @bougiewonderland@freeradical.zone

                                                    @heyheymomo I Was A Teenage Exocolonist. Cried like a baby. Played for nearly 100 hours. Awesome art and even better story. Replayability is a necessity. Best value for money, guaranteed!

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                                                      [?]heyheymomo » 🌐
                                                      @heyheymomo@socel.net

                                                      Wow thanks for all the recs! Plenty of cool stuff for me to try 🤩

                                                      [?]hirnsalat [he/they] » 🔓
                                                      @hirnsalat@chaos.social

                                                      @heyheymomo dead as disco! basically devil may cry or sifu but with more rythm and neon and, well, disco

                                                        [?]Softwarewolf [He/Him] » 🔓
                                                        @faoluin@chitter.xyz

                                                        @heyheymomo I just finished playing the Beastfolk Barber demo, it looks very cute and relaxing.

                                                        Juxtaposed to the other games I've been playing recently which are all horror. X3

                                                          [?]Ayako » 🌐
                                                          @Ayako@troet.cafe

                                                          @heyheymomo I love Guild Wars 2 and recently have discovered Enshrouded. Both are fun! 😄

                                                            [?]Lo » 🌐
                                                            @Lo@social.spejset.org

                                                            @heyheymomo yeah Zoominoes! Cute, satisfying, surprisingly sophisticated on higher difficulties. It's not out fully but the free demo on steam is bafflingly generous.

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                                                              [?]The Abominable Dr. Vibes [he/him/his, they/them/theirs] » 🌐
                                                              @ItsTheManOnTheMoon@timeloop.cafe

                                                              How to play the what now

                                                              How to play the GOON-BONES "goon-bone rhythm" by Ted Goon

                                                              Alt...How to play the GOON-BONES "goon-bone rhythm" by Ted Goon

                                                              [?]Tomáš » 🌐
                                                              @prahou@merveilles.town

                                                              @thelinuxcast why do the penguins in your thumbnails have human hands? :(

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                                                                [?]Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch) [🐱] » 🌐
                                                                @catsalad@infosec.exchange

                                                                @prahou @thelinuxcast The alchemists need to be stopped 😭

                                                                Photo of an orange cat in between somebody's legs, but the human's feet looks like they belong to the cat.

                                                                Alt...Photo of an orange cat in between somebody's legs, but the human's feet looks like they belong to the cat.

                                                                  [?]Stan Stewart aka muz4now » 🌐
                                                                  @muz4now@mastodon.world

                                                                  Is most of your music listening on
                                                                  headphones? 🎧
                                                                  hi-fi speakers? 🔊
                                                                  speakers that came with your computer? 💻
                                                                  the built-in speaker on your phone or tablet? 📱
                                                                  something else?

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                                                                  [?]socool » 🌐
                                                                  @socool@ravenation.club

                                                                  @muz4now something else :) a lot of the time when I’m both listening to and making music, I’m using bone conduction headphones.

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                                                                    [?]Stan Stewart aka muz4now » 🌐
                                                                    @muz4now@mastodon.world

                                                                    @socool How do you like those?

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                                                                      [?]socool » 🌐
                                                                      @socool@ravenation.club

                                                                      @muz4now I love them. The Canadian company that makes them offer a Pro version and you can actually hear bass pretty well which is nice. I also appreciate not having to deal with hearing fatigue so much during long sessions :)

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                                                                        [?]ManMachine » 🌐
                                                                        @max@manmachine.me

                                                                        wow they made them with bass?? I tried some a while back and ultimately sold them due to them severely lacking in that specifically

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                                                                          [?]socool » 🌐
                                                                          @socool@ravenation.club

                                                                          @max yes i've had a few previous versions with like no bass at all and then i got the OpenRun Pro 2s and suddenly there it was. this one has dual drivers and combines both bone and air conduction or something like that. anyways it may be worth finding a pair to try out if you're looking for something like that :)

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                                                                            [?]ManMachine » 🌐
                                                                            @max@manmachine.me

                                                                            ah interesting thanks!

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                                                                              [?]ManMachine » 🌐
                                                                              @max@manmachine.me

                                                                              Home hifi, big home headphones, small custom fitted in-ears, car speakers, more or less in that order of preference.

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                                                                                [?]Stan Stewart aka muz4now » 🌐
                                                                                @muz4now@mastodon.world

                                                                                @max "Sounds" good. 😊

                                                                                  [?]allison » 🌐
                                                                                  @aparrish@friend.camp

                                                                                  i have been doing a bunch of reading about the history of computation (in e.g. link.springer.com/book/10.1007) and one striking thing is how dedicated everyone involved was to base 10. even after everyone realized in the mid-1930s or so that "hey it's actually way easier to do computer math with binary numbers" they still went on designing machines for decades that exclusively used binary-coded decimal schemes in their *internal representations* of numbers, not just input/output. wild

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                                                                                  [?]allison » 🌐
                                                                                  @aparrish@friend.camp

                                                                                  total opposite energy from that era in which we made every web designer learn hexadecimal if they wanted to change something's color

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                                                                                  [?]allison » 🌐
                                                                                  @aparrish@friend.camp

                                                                                  okay now i'm reading about a computer from the late 1930s that "punched" its tape with a 5,000V electric arc (described by Atanasoff in the volume i linked above)

                                                                                  circuit diagram with two thyratrons(?) and a transformer, showing a "card" between two electrodes (one connected to the transformer, the other to ground)

                                                                                  Alt...circuit diagram with two thyratrons(?) and a transformer, showing a "card" between two electrodes (one connected to the transformer, the other to ground)

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                                                                                  [?]I scored a perfect 1600 using my SAT solver [(she, her, hers)] » 🌐
                                                                                  @quephird@tech.lgbt

                                                                                  Every time I see a Cybertruck I think to myself, “JFC, the Nintendo 64 had a better graphics engine than that piece of shit.”

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                                                                                  [?]Matthew Dockrey » 🌐
                                                                                  @attoparsec@clacks.link

                                                                                  @quephird I keep waiting for the rest of the polygons to load as they get closer.

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                                                                                    [?]xenia, the fediverse eepy kitty :tranarchy_punk_nonbinary_wartime: :green: » 🌐
                                                                                    @gettie@fedi.catto.garden

                                                                                    i have to say it, because it’s tiring to see…

                                                                                    the http scare on “modern” browsers is bullshit

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                                                                                    [?]abadidea [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                    @0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                                                                    what would YOU prefer I focus my Classical Chinese translation time on? (Anything I translate will be free to read and in a modern, non-hyper-literal style)

                                                                                    1) finish the Analects of Confucius, of which there are already three chapters; there are already many translations of this, mine is just, well, internet-flavored xn--hmr.net/classicalchinese/a

                                                                                    2) the Salt and Iron Concords - a transcript of a bunch of guys around a table arguing economic policy over 2000 years ago, because the emperor is too dead to be offended if they disagree out loud with him; largely falls along "the virtue of the self-sufficient household" vs "the practicality of industrialization and specialization" lines

                                                                                    3) Our Boy Yanzi (The Annals of Yanzi), the legend of ancient China's shortest, ugliest philosopher constantly telling off the drunkest duke for being the worst

                                                                                    Analects of Confucius:30
                                                                                    Salt and Iron Concords:46
                                                                                    Our Boy Yanzi:64

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                                                                                      [?]Lety Does Stuff [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                      @lety@doesstuff.social

                                                                                      @0xabad1dea I am genuinely very interested in reading the Salt and Iron Concords and would very much appreciate your translation of it

                                                                                      Also, how did you arrive at “concords” as a translation for “論”? I feel your translations usually favor the vernacular, so it's not often I have to look up a word you chose

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                                                                                        [?]abadidea [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                        @0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                                                                        @lety it just Felt Right in the context of the goal, which was to arrive at an agreement for a new economic policy; I might not stick with it. "Discourses" sounds really awkward and clunky here to me.

                                                                                          [?]George B » 🌐
                                                                                          @gbargoud@masto.nyc

                                                                                          @0xabad1dea

                                                                                          The descriptions really make it sound to me like you want to translate Our Boy Yanzi

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                                                                                            [?]abadidea [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                            @0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                                                                            @gbargoud I want to translate all of these and many others! 😂 , the issue is that I'm scatterbrained about it and need a push to lock in on just one

                                                                                              [?]abadidea [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                              @0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                                                                              The first anecdote of Our Boy Yanzi, which I translated just now, is not one of the funnier stories; but it may be funnier if I preface that the duke in this story (who is not even the drunkest duke!) gets assassinated afterwards because he tried to bang his own kingmaker's wife.

                                                                                              OUR BOY YANZI (The Annals of Yanzi), Book 1 Chapter 1, Anecdote A: Duke Zhuang Brags Of Strength While Ignoring Justice; Yanzi Tells Him Off

                                                                                              Duke Zhuang boasted of his strength and manly courage, but did not give much thought to justice and good conduct. Warriors did whatever they wanted throughout the land, the Duke’s family did not correct him, and his most trusted ministers did not advise him. So, Yanzi showed up.

                                                                                              The Duke said, “Didn’t the ancients also rule the world by courage and strength?”

                                                                                              Yanzi told him, “I have heard that someone who would rather die than act uncivilized is courageous, and one who unflinchingly opposes cruelty is strong. Therefore, the way to be courageous and strong is to first be civilized and just. There have been heroes in the past, like the founders of the Shang and Zhou dynasties, who raised armies without traitorous intent. They unified nations not for their own gain, but for the sake of humanity and justice. To oppose cruelty and arrest criminals without fear of reprisal, that’s real courage.”

                                                                                              “Ancient heroes were civilized and just. But nowadays, the rulers are inhumane and their servants do not punish criminals or prevent cruelty. They rule by strength alone, leading the nation into disaster. The common people follow and destroy their own families.”

                                                                                              “As the Xia Dynasty waned, there were many men who were strong. They could run a thousand miles, they could wrangle a rhinoceros and tear a tiger in half. They terrorized the whole world with their strength, murdering the innocent. Praising strength, neglecting justice, this culminated in the reigns of Jie the Cruel and Horse-Ass Zhou, the worst kings to ever rule, and the downfall of their dynasties.”

                                                                                              “So now you’re bragging about how strong you are, you’re neglecting justice, warriors are running loose, might is making right, your family isn’t pulling you aside and your ministers aren’t standing up to you; you’re doing everything that virtuous sage-kings didn’t and everything that disastrous fail-kings did. Can’t say I’ve ever heard of that working out.”

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                                                                                                [?]Stephen Perdue » 🌐
                                                                                                @StayBunn@mastodon.social

                                                                                                @0xabad1dea I just don’t know how to relate to stories about a time so incomprehensibly different from now, where our modern leaders are all so wise and just.

                                                                                                  [?]abadidea [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                  @0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                                                                                  I had to make a relationship chart of Yanzi’s favorite historical guys to bring up when dunking on his pet fail-dukes. I’m sure it will expand onto second and third post-it notes…

                                                                                                  And yes, there’s Zhou (dynasty, presumed good) and Zhou (guy, total fuckup)

                                                                                                  My printed Chinese copy of the Annals of Yanzi with a cute post-it note charting the chronology and morality of several Neolithic and Bronze Age kings

                                                                                                  Alt...My printed Chinese copy of the Annals of Yanzi with a cute post-it note charting the chronology and morality of several Neolithic and Bronze Age kings

                                                                                                    [?]Glyph » 🌐
                                                                                                    @glyph@mastodon.social

                                                                                                    everybody out here posting about how LLMs are making them worse at writing and coding because it's atrophying their skills and not really getting much work done anyway, but not me, LLMs are making *me* worse at writing and coding because every time I look at anything on my computer or go outside and drive down any road with a billboard on it or talk to my friends or my kid's friends' parents, I am slapped in the face with some fresh indignity that I can't stop talking about

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                                                                                                    [?]Glyph » 🌐
                                                                                                    @glyph@mastodon.social

                                                                                                    like managing external stimuli about random vendor sports was already hard enough, this is truly intolerable. surely there must be a way to bring an Americans with Disabilities Act lawsuit against, like… the zeitgeist, for creating a hostile work environment. I would like one billion dollars in damages please

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                                                                                                    [?]Glyph » 🌐
                                                                                                    @glyph@mastodon.social

                                                                                                    oh hi I have ADHD if I hadn't mentioned that

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                                                                                                    [?]Glyph » 🌐
                                                                                                    @glyph@mastodon.social

                                                                                                    at this point I'm afraid to physically touch grass because I am pretty sure the grass is going to try to sell me a Copilot subscription

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                                                                                                    [?]Wieferich Prime [he / him] » 🌐
                                                                                                    @pikesley@mastodon.me.uk

                                                                                                    My AI has Escaped Containment and started ordering huge amounts of guillotine parts 🤷

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                                                                                                    [?]James Smith 💾 » 🌐
                                                                                                    @Floppy@mastodon.me.uk

                                                                                                    @pikesley guillotine maximizer

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                                                                                                      [?]lj·rk » 🌐
                                                                                                      @ljrk@todon.eu

                                                                                                      @Floppy @pikesley Isn't that nowadays guillotinemaxxxing?

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                                                                                                        [?]Alice Averlong🏳️‍⚧️ [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                        @foone@digipres.club

                                                                                                        is there some technical reason why every single password manager I've ever used doesn't do shit for HTTP Basic Auth?

                                                                                                        You'd think this is the place they'd shine, since it's standardized and built into the browser, rather than having to regex for username and password fields

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                                                                                                        [?]Alice Averlong🏳️‍⚧️ [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                        @foone@digipres.club

                                                                                                        or is it just "who the fuck uses HTTP Basic Auth these days?"

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                                                                                                        [?]Daniel Durrans [he/him] » 🌐
                                                                                                        @dan@mastodon.durrans.com

                                                                                                        @foone I had this exact experience last week. Ended up having to faff about installing Authelia to avoid Basic Auth.

                                                                                                          [?]Graham Sutherland🎃 / Polynomial.pdf.exe » 🔓
                                                                                                          @gsuberland@chaos.social

                                                                                                          @foone for keepass and system-level ones it generally works cos of window title matching and the basic auth prompts being tab level overlays these days, but yeah, the browser add-on ones don't tend to handle it well at all

                                                                                                            [?]msx » 🌐
                                                                                                            @msx@livellosegreto.it

                                                                                                            @foone long live basic auth! It's perfect for small personal stuff like home servers

                                                                                                              [?]Alice Averlong🏳️‍⚧️ [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                              @foone@digipres.club

                                                                                                              firefox has a built in password manager now, you'd think they'd plug it into the HTTP Basic Auth dialog box, but NOPE

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                                                                                                              [?]ɗ𐐩ʃƕρʋ » 🔓
                                                                                                              @deshipu@fosstodon.org

                                                                                                              @foone I bet they would do it if it was HTTP Rust Auth!

                                                                                                                [?]Klaus Frank » 🌐
                                                                                                                @agowa338@chaos.social

                                                                                                                @foone

                                                                                                                They actually did. But turns out automatically submitting HTTP Basic Auth is a terrible idea for security. Esp. when combined with automatic proxy detection.

                                                                                                                There should be an about:config setting for it. (At least there used to)

                                                                                                                  [?]Alice Averlong🏳️‍⚧️ [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                  @foone@digipres.club

                                                                                                                  okay apparently firefox will do this, it just doesn't do it for me because I turned off the built in password manager because I use another manager, and that other manager doesn't do basic auth. annoying

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                                                                                                                  [?]Ben Stokman [He/him] » 🔓
                                                                                                                  @benjistokman@mast.benstokman.me

                                                                                                                  @foone it's probably more like the API isn't built to let extensions access browser interfaces.

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                                                                                                                    [?]ManMachine » 🌐
                                                                                                                    @max@manmachine.me

                                                                                                                    Safari with the native apple password manager works beautifully for those, so not all is lost

                                                                                                                      [?]Klaus Frank » 🌐
                                                                                                                      @agowa338@chaos.social

                                                                                                                      @foone

                                                                                                                      Browser APIs and because it is rarely used these days. Mainly for shit like when you've ordered a new website from a web designer for them to host the staging version with.

                                                                                                                      Then the passwords are either already in the URL or just something easy like:

                                                                                                                      user: demo
                                                                                                                      password: 1234

                                                                                                                      (Also some password managers that don't natively support basic auth support just putting it into the URL via fields. And those that don't even do that, well just store the URL with them already filled in)

                                                                                                                        [?]toadjaune » 🌐
                                                                                                                        @toadjaune@hostux.social

                                                                                                                        @foone bitwarden does, was it on your list ?

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                                                                                                                          [?]The Man-Machine » 🌐
                                                                                                                          @manmachine@metapixl.com

                                                                                                                          Lots of small colourful flags strewn across grey and black marble-ish floor.

                                                                                                                          Alt...Lots of small colourful flags strewn across grey and black marble-ish floor.

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                                                                                                                          [?]heyheymomo » 🌐
                                                                                                                          @heyheymomo@socel.net

                                                                                                                          Hello I’d like to spend it all please

                                                                                                                          4 panel comic.   Panel 1: A pink blob character in suit tells Forg “you did a good business”  Panel 2: the pink blob in suit hands forg a dollar bill. He says “here is your pay”  Panel 3: forg holds the dollar bill. The man in suit walks off the frame. He reminds forg “don’t spend it all at once”  Panel 4: we see now that forg didn’t really listen to his advice. He stands in front of a building labeled “things you don’t need store”, dollar bill still in hand ready to be spent

                                                                                                                          Alt...4 panel comic. Panel 1: A pink blob character in suit tells Forg “you did a good business” Panel 2: the pink blob in suit hands forg a dollar bill. He says “here is your pay” Panel 3: forg holds the dollar bill. The man in suit walks off the frame. He reminds forg “don’t spend it all at once” Panel 4: we see now that forg didn’t really listen to his advice. He stands in front of a building labeled “things you don’t need store”, dollar bill still in hand ready to be spent

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                                                                                                                          [?]LR » 🌐
                                                                                                                          @lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                                                                                                          @heyheymomo also known as the milk & hat store

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                                                                                                                            [?]heyheymomo » 🌐
                                                                                                                            @heyheymomo@socel.net

                                                                                                                            @lritter oi! Hats are needed!!!

                                                                                                                              [?]Lichtscheu » 🔓
                                                                                                                              @lichtscheu@troet.cafe

                                                                                                                              @heyheymomo

                                                                                                                              Hello, that's me!

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                                                                                                                                [?]Jellyfriend :jellybin: [They / Them] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                @jellyfriend@plush.city

                                                                                                                                @heyheymomo THIS is why i have mastodon notify me when you post momo, this. right here. :good_post: :yayblob:

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                                                                                                                                  [?]heyheymomo » 🌐
                                                                                                                                  @heyheymomo@socel.net

                                                                                                                                  @jellyfriend glad it’s still worth it to you!

                                                                                                                                    [?]heyheymomo » 🌐
                                                                                                                                    @heyheymomo@socel.net

                                                                                                                                    Momo’s things you don’t need store:

                                                                                                                                    ko-fi.com/heyheymomo/commissio

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                                                                                                                                    [?]Kestral [They/Them] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                    @kestral@masto.hackers.town

                                                                                                                                    I christen you in the name of the pointer, the struct, and the holy segfault.

                                                                                                                                    infosec.exchange/@0xabad1dea/1

                                                                                                                                    [?]Stan Stewart aka muz4now » 🌐
                                                                                                                                    @muz4now@mastodon.world

                                                                                                                                    🎶 How many songs do you listen to each day? (Approximate is fine.) 🎵
                                                                                                                                    🎹 What is your favorite style of music to listen to? 🪕

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                                                                                                                                    [?]ManMachine » 🌐
                                                                                                                                    @max@manmachine.me

                                                                                                                                    At least an album's worth usually, up to several depending on what I do that day. Hard to pinpoint any one style.

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                                                                                                                                      [?]Stan Stewart aka muz4now » 🌐
                                                                                                                                      @muz4now@mastodon.world

                                                                                                                                      @max Thanks for responding. Especially the "hard to pinpoint any one style". That's awesome.

                                                                                                                                        [?]abadidea [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                        @0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                                                                                                                        "this dialogue freely chooses to be useless, but I know how to trick the computer into telling me what friggin' process has a friggin' file handle open on my friggin' e-reader"

                                                                                                                                        "well frigg me, I guess"

                                                                                                                                        screenshot: computer is informing me that it can't eject the disk because one or more programs may be trying to use it (no information is provided on which programs these might be)

next to a terminal where I have run "list open files" command filtered for the name of the disk, showing exactly zero results

                                                                                                                                        Alt...screenshot: computer is informing me that it can't eject the disk because one or more programs may be trying to use it (no information is provided on which programs these might be) next to a terminal where I have run "list open files" command filtered for the name of the disk, showing exactly zero results

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                                                                                                                                        [?]Jeroen Wiert Pluimers » 🌐
                                                                                                                                        @wiert@mastodon.social

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                                                                                                                                        [?]abadidea [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                        @0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                                                                                                                        @wiert ... there's a secret extra "actually do what I want" flag? ._.

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                                                                                                                                          [?]Jeroen Wiert Pluimers » 🌐
                                                                                                                                          @wiert@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                          @0xabad1dea please enlighten, as the on-line MacOS man pages are not provided by Apple any more (the mess described at apple.stackexchange.com/questi is so regretable)

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                                                                                                                                            [?]abadidea [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                            @0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                                                                                                                            @wiert I simply scrolled down on that link until it said to remember to pass "+D" (with special snowflake flag syntax) if you want it to actually work for this use case

                                                                                                                                              [?]Gary » 🌐
                                                                                                                                              @WiteWulf@cyberplace.social

                                                                                                                                              @0xabad1dea the key word in that dialogue box is "may" 😆

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                                                                                                                                                [?]Fritz Adalis [he/him] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                @FritzAdalis@infosec.exchange

                                                                                                                                                Was listening to the Defcon channel on @somafm . Good channel, a little more mellow than I expected.

                                                                                                                                                They were playing Pink Floyd!

                                                                                                                                                They were playing Hey You by Pink Floyd!

                                                                                                                                                They were playing the Muzak version of Hey You by Pink Floyd.

                                                                                                                                                Man, I don't like this being old thing. I mean of course I listened to it. No matter how I tried, I could not break free. And the worms ate into my brain.

                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  i wonder if you could make a useful DOS executable with just emoji

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  one intriguing possibility is that several UTF-8 emoji codepoints start with 0xF0 which is an otherwise harmless prefix on 8088

                                                                                                                                                  💯 -> f0 9f 92 af

                                                                                                                                                  this becomes

                                                                                                                                                  00000000    F0 9F   lock lahf
                                                                                                                                                  00000002 92 xchg dx,ax
                                                                                                                                                  00000003 AF scasd

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  Although you're stuck with 9F it seems, so you're constantly trashing AH by calling lahf. If we accept this as a constant side effect, we can just use half of the bytes.

                                                                                                                                                  unfortunately you kinda need AH to call interrupts...

                                                                                                                                                  so let's identify some useful emoji.
                                                                                                                                                  here's NOP:

                                                                                                                                                  🐐

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  there are 3717 of these. surely some of them have to be useful

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  unfortunately i don't see any that begin with F0 9F B0-BF

                                                                                                                                                  that would have been nice, since that would have given us mov reg,imm

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  A lot of other emoji start with E2, which is a LOOP instruction - not particularly useful there, but maybe we can use E2 to complete another instruction. we also have E3 which is JCXZ. i'm drawing a blank.

                                                                                                                                                  0️⃣1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣4️⃣5️⃣6️⃣7️⃣8️⃣9️⃣

                                                                                                                                                  are all potentially useful ALU operations though!

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  these are "keycaps" and i don't know if they are technically emoji. but like, i figure if theyr'e in color they're emoji. that's my qualification.

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  you can't make this shit up

                                                                                                                                                  the hourglass is FWAIT

                                                                                                                                                  a screenshot of part of a spreadsheet showing that the hourglass emoji decodes to LOCK LAHF FWAIT

                                                                                                                                                  Alt...a screenshot of part of a spreadsheet showing that the hourglass emoji decodes to LOCK LAHF FWAIT

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  why am i doing this. i have other projects

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  because the world needs an emoji-based LLVM backend

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  all you really need, technically, is a small loader and emoji-encoder, then you just let Turing do all the work

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  jackpot: 😮 gives us

                                                                                                                                                  cbw
                                                                                                                                                  scasb

                                                                                                                                                  that's incredibly useful. now we can increment a pointer.

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  👁️ gives us

                                                                                                                                                  xchg cx,ax
                                                                                                                                                  sub di,8FB8h

                                                                                                                                                  the xchg is just noise.
                                                                                                                                                  the subtraction however is interesting. it's equivalent to adding 7048h.

                                                                                                                                                  48h actually seems like a plausibly useful number

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  😪
                                                                                                                                                  gives us stosb. Now we can increment DI and we can write to it. oh baby

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  🐸.

                                                                                                                                                  🐸 is the goddamn key to this whole thing

                                                                                                                                                  it's

                                                                                                                                                  F0 9F 90 B8.

                                                                                                                                                  the first three bytes are essentially a 3-byte nop, but it ends on B8.

                                                                                                                                                  B8 IS MOV AX, IMMEDIATE.

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  i love u frog

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  i want to print "HELLO"

                                                                                                                                                  how do we calculate hello if we can only use +1 and +48

                                                                                                                                                  you're never gonna believe me but guess what the hex ascii code for H is

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  we need a pointer into CGA video memory at segment B800.

                                                                                                                                                  ☺️ gets us us B8EFh in DX. Good enough. It's about 3,824 bytes down the screen but we're using god damn emoji for assembly language here so i'm not too picky

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  ok how do we even initalize something to 0?

                                                                                                                                                  8F F0 is an undocumented alias for POP AX.

                                                                                                                                                  guess what DOS pushes to the stack for you when your COM program starts.

                                                                                                                                                  that's right. a 0. now we have 0 in AX.

                                                                                                                                                  a screenshot of the Marty X86 disassembler showing some emoji being used to build a very cursed 8088 program:

lahf
nop
mov ax,98E2h
mov dx,B8EFh
pop ax
lahf
cbw
xchg di,ax

                                                                                                                                                  Alt...a screenshot of the Marty X86 disassembler showing some emoji being used to build a very cursed 8088 program: lahf nop mov ax,98E2h mov dx,B8EFh pop ax lahf cbw xchg di,ax

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  i was worried that this was going to be too stupid to be plausible, or require something like 32KiB of brainfuck-level shenanigans, but i actually think this is going to work

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  demo coders who compete in size coding categories know a lot of clever tricks that take advantage of how DOS intializes a program's PSP.

                                                                                                                                                  les bx,[bx]
                                                                                                                                                  at the start of a DOS program gives you a usable pointer to VGA video memory.

                                                                                                                                                  no really. how does this work? it ends up accessing a value in the PSP. DOS puts the value 0x9FFF there. used as a segment, that's only 16 bytes from the start of VGA memory.

                                                                                                                                                  you can work around that.

                                                                                                                                                  this is not related to emojissembly but i think its cool

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  i would like to propose new demo party categories.

                                                                                                                                                  512 byte demos? yawn.
                                                                                                                                                  512 emoji demos? now we're talking

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  okay. to write HELLO somewhere on the screen we have an additional issue in that we have to account for attribute bytes, we can't just yeet out the string HELLO as much as i'd like to and we already know calling int 21h or int 13h is off the table because we trash AH every instruction.

                                                                                                                                                  we can probably just increment di twice to skip the attributes. or if its easier to generate a visible attribute byte i don't really care what color the letters are

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  okay hear me out

                                                                                                                                                  you know how LAHF is trashing AH constantly? how i figured that was annoying but ignorable?

                                                                                                                                                  ... what if we fucked with the flags so that every time we executing LAHF it put a visible attribute byte in AH

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  i mean it doesn't have to be an attribute byte. i was just assuming AH would be garbage but we actually do control the value. sort of.

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  WE HAVE AN H

                                                                                                                                                  the crap on the screen is CGA snow. it's happening because i end up looping over the whole thing and i'm not waiting for blanking periods to write to video memory. the CGA's DRAM is single-ported and this makes it upset

                                                                                                                                                  a screenshot of DosBox-X running a bunch of god damn emoji as a COM program.  the emoji have managed to print 'H' to the screen . there is a bunch of red and white crap on the screen due to CGA snow

                                                                                                                                                  Alt...a screenshot of DosBox-X running a bunch of god damn emoji as a COM program. the emoji have managed to print 'H' to the screen . there is a bunch of red and white crap on the screen due to CGA snow

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  i usually like staging but DosBox-X's 8088 emulation is more accurate.

                                                                                                                                                  why am i not using my own emulator? because it's a low level emulator and i have to reboot the entire machine when i hang the CPU. which i am doing. a lot.

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  someday i'll have save states and that won't be a problem...

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  🐰 and 🐎 are now essential to this operation

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  oh, there's your problem right there. you forgot the horse opcode

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  ... i really need to work a cow into here somewhere, don't i

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  🐄 is TEST which is fairly useless but also probably pretty easy to make into an effective no-op. which is sort of lame, but hey.

                                                                                                                                                  🐮 is SCASB though, that's got some promise, but i don't really need to read anything...

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  well, i can use it to increment di somewhere.

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  okay, now i just have to cook.

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  i think it's okay if i put crap on the screen other than HELLO as long as you can read HELLO

                                                                                                                                                  i mean that technically counts right

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  i'm not a fancy computer scientist person, but i think it's a fair assessment at this point that emoji are, in fact, turing complete

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  The following is a valid DOS COM executable that prints "HELLO" in the lower right corner of the screen.

                                                                                                                                                  You can copy these emoji into a text editor, and save it as EMOJI.COM. it should be 141 bytes.

                                                                                                                                                  It will run in DosBox-X, with the following options:

                                                                                                                                                  cpu cputype=8086
                                                                                                                                                  machine cga

                                                                                                                                                  🐸☺️🐰🐎♐🗃️🧯🧯🧯🐮💗🦮🪏♐🐰🐹🗃️🧯🧯🧯🧯💗🪗🧯😗🧮🫪😗🧮😗🐮😪😔⭐

                                                                                                                                                  may god have mercy on my soul.

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  Here's a screenshot if you just want to take my word for it.

                                                                                                                                                  a screenshot of "EMOJI.COM" running in DosBox-X, showing a black screen with "HELLO" in the lower right. One of the capital letter L's is green.

                                                                                                                                                  Alt...a screenshot of "EMOJI.COM" running in DosBox-X, showing a black screen with "HELLO" in the lower right. One of the capital letter L's is green.

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  you may notice one of the letter L's is green. the green color comes from the flag register, because i really wanted to use one of those LAHFs for something.

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  My demoscene-friend Trixter informs me that this is sadly unlikely to become a sizecoding category, because if the history of ASCII executables is any indication, someone would just make a converter at some point

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  so.. EmojiDOOM wen?

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                  could you actually make EmojiDOOM?

                                                                                                                                                  One problem is that executing emoji becomes exponentially harder once you stop targeting the 8088.

                                                                                                                                                  The 386 also has the lock prefix - but it enforces validity. Only certain opcodes are "lockable" and if you stick a LOCK prefix on an incompatible opcode you get an int 6 exception.

                                                                                                                                                  No bueno.

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                                                                                                                                                    [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                    @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                    Now, thankfully, insane folk like @sqpat have ported DOOM.. yes, the full version of DOOM to the 8088 real mode architecture.

                                                                                                                                                    The question is if that herculean effort can accommodate the code bloat that translating to emoji will inevitably entail.

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                                                                                                                                                      [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                      @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                      The relentless LAHF opcodes are just really, really annoying too. AH is a rather important register to have continually trashed, although we can pretty easily set it to either 00 or FF via CBW.

                                                                                                                                                      Also I checked ... the INT 10h instruction CD 10 to even change video modes does not appear in any of the 3,945 emoji i searched. We would have to generate the code for it and jump to it.

                                                                                                                                                      with emoji.

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                                                                                                                                                      [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                      @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                      in short you would have to be utterly insane, or @foone

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                                                                                                                                                        [?]Alice Averlong🏳️‍⚧️ [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                        @foone@digipres.club

                                                                                                                                                        @gloriouscow I'm just insane to cut out the middleman

                                                                                                                                                          [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                          @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                          so anyway here's an emoji program that enters VGA mode 13h

                                                                                                                                                          🐸☺️😖🐰😗😯😯😯😯😯😯😯🐰☃️🐰☃️🐰☃️🐰☃️🐰☃️🐰☃️🐰☃️🐰☃️🐰☃️😯🐮🤐😬🗓️🐰☃️🐰☃️🐰☃️🧯🧯🧯🧯🧯🧯📗🐪🗓️🐰☃️🐰☃️🐰☃️🧮📗🐪🗓️🧯🧯🧯🧯🧮📗🐪🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐😗🧯🧯🧯🧯🧯🐮😗😐

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                                                                                                                                                          [?]gloriouscow » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                          @gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                                                                                                                                                          as you can see this requires a lot of bunnies, snow men and goats.

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                                                                                                                                                          [?]Simon Tatham » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                          @simontatham@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                                                                          In programming languages with exceptions, there is a fundamental divide between
                                                                                                                                                          • those in which you're tempted to call an exception type "Tantrum"
                                                                                                                                                          • those in which you're tempted to call an exception type "Eyebrow".

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                                                                                                                                                          [?]TheConstructor (he/him) » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                          @TheConstructor@social.tchncs.de

                                                                                                                                                          @simontatham I am mostly surprised, that from all the languages I got paid to use, I only remember Java telling me to declare my Exceptions upfront (and at the same time offered other "throwables", which need no declaration)

                                                                                                                                                            [?]Claudius » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                            @claudius@darmstadt.social

                                                                                                                                                            @simontatham in Javascript:

                                                                                                                                                            const up = new Error();
                                                                                                                                                            throw up;

                                                                                                                                                              [?]rk: it’s hyphen-minus actually » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                              @rk@mastodon.well.com

                                                                                                                                                              @simontatham

                                                                                                                                                              And then you have flow-control exceptions like StopIteration in Python which would be typed as…I don’t even know. Advice?

                                                                                                                                                                [?]⁂ Fish Id Wardrobe [He/Him (if you like)] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                @fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                                                                                                                                                                @simontatham i had genuinely never thought of that. i must be slowing down.

                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Hugo Mills [He/Him (will accept "oi, you!")] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                  @darkling@mstdn.social

                                                                                                                                                                  @simontatham I've usually been tempted by "Wobbly" and "MerryHell", respectively.

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                                                                                                                                                                    [?]ManMachine » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                    @max@manmachine.me

                                                                                                                                                                    the legend is they're still filing all the necessary papers

                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Eniko Fox » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                      @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                                                                                                                                                      language that only allows null inside of an unsafe { } block

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                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Eniko Fox » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                      @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                                                                                                                                                      this is not a shitpost

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                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Pent Up Games 🔞 [he/him] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                      @PentUp@kinkycats.org

                                                                                                                                                                      @eniko That's exactly what a shitpost would say! 😜

                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Eniko Fox » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                        @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                                                                                                                                                        most people don't realize qbasic doesn't even contain the concept of null

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                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Ben from CDS » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                        @glenatron@dice.camp

                                                                                                                                                                        @eniko Qbasic: the people's Rust.

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                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Eniko Fox » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                          @eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                                                                                                                                                          @glenatron it really is though!!!

                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Thepi » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                            @thepi@urusai.social

                                                                                                                                                                            @eniko qbasic had half a null so vba could have four o7

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                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Paul Mison » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                              @paulmison@sfba.social

                                                                                                                                                                              @mwichary why is Spotify backwards??

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                                                                                                                                                                                [?]ManMachine » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                @max@manmachine.me

                                                                                                                                                                                It's symbolic of their business model I suppose

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